Russian Pod- Stories from Russia

Russian Chain-smoking Doctors and Wind Herpes

August 10, 2018 Ryan and Leysan Season 1 Episode 6
Russian Pod- Stories from Russia
Russian Chain-smoking Doctors and Wind Herpes
Show Notes Transcript

Is beef tongue still meat? How about chicken stomachs? (some Russians have interesting thoughts on that). What is the best time to announce to the nation that they have to work for 8 years longer before retiring? (hint: during a game with Saudi Arabia) Can you catch herpes from wind? (Russians say Yes!). Tune in and learn about the recent trip to Russia that brought some interesting questions and revelations. 

Leysan:

So I just got back from Russia.

Ryan:

Welcome.

Leysan:

Thank you.

Ryan:

LA has missed you

Leysan:

Thank you. I was there for a month and a half and I was not just... Oh, let me start with the fact that it was World Cup and it was sort of against my will, but I was there during the Cup, um

Ryan:

and bought a ticket a week and a half before it started.

Leysan:

When I bought a ticket, it was already... Oh yeah, I think I bought it either the day off or a couple of days before it started.

Ryan:

Kazan game happened while you were just there. The first Kazan game. And that was like, I think only the third, third or forth game that I think even happened.

Leysan:

Right. So the very first game in World Cup for everyone who wasn't following, which I feel like maybe most of you, was Russia versus Saudi Arabia, which I feel like that arrangement... that arrangement was made not accidentally. Russia won five- zero.. Russian team, just to give you an idea, all of the Russians will defend them till they die, but at the same time they're shitting all over their team. So when they won five-zero..

Ryan:

In like the bars or at home?

Leysan:

Anywhere.

Ryan:

But not to foreigners?

Leysan:

No, no, no. The first game was five-zero, which for Russian team that is known to be okay. Um, that was a big win. So that same day as everyone was celebrating, the Russian government raised the retirement age from 60 to 65 for men and from 55 to 63 for women.

Ryan:

He has been waiting. You've told me about this for I want to say almost two years now. A year and a half. You've been telling me they're talking about raising the age and I just, he's been waiting and waiting for some sort of good news. Like he pulls himself this day. He like once we had 92 percent approval rating, that's when.

Leysan:

So maybe he was putting a bid for this championship to be in Russia solely for the purpose of raising the retirement age.

Ryan:

I think Putin has many lists. One of them is like a black list, another one is

Leysan:

The black one is just permanently displayed in front of his desk

Ryan:

Yeah Yeah and the other one is like "Release to media Bad Information". Like bad news. I want to call it. Is that, that list is like the bad news bears list?

Leysan:

Yeah. Or like in this case the legislation plus announcement of legislation. Yeah, because it had to be passed. So he wasn't

Ryan:

So the Duma passed it

Leysan:

Yeah

Ryan:

and it was introduced all in one day?

Leysan:

Yes. So unlike here in U.S. you have two chambers, Senate and the House, and then the President has to agree, disagree. Duma in Russia they vote for it and Putin approves it because, I mean, I feel like most legislation that are introduced to Duma are already kind of approved by Putin, so yeah, it was done and done and then as everyone was celebrating- surprise! you're not going to retire another five to eight years depending on your gender and so then when all of my friends were excited about next game, Russia is going to play. I was asking, are you not concerned about all of the other legislation they are waiting to pass? if they win again? They're going to cancel the retirement age altogether if Russian team keeps winning.

Ryan:

If they get to finals, yeah. I like to think that there were no matter the outcome of the first game, all Russian men were going to lose five years of the retirement. If they lost, they just would have been so distraught and hurt.

Leysan:

They would lose five years from their life total?

Ryan:

So instead of losing it on the front end, but like they did with the retirement age and living on the back end. So instead of dying, you know, at 75, they die

Leysan:

You think that the life expectancy in Russia is 75?!

Ryan:

If Russia wins, yeah. Everyone's going to be happy. And.. but you guys didn't make it all the way through.

Leysan:

Life expectancy in Russia is like 62. It's not 75 even in America. Oh no, it is. I think it's 78 in America.

Ryan:

Yeah. And women is like 80, 84 or something.

Leysan:

So when I was in Russia, I have to announce to my friends and family and come out of a meat closet. I had to tell them that I am a vegetarian.

Ryan:

I like that phrase on the street has a completely different meaning. Coming out of the meat closet?! Were the doors covered with.. did you have to come out of the meat curtains first. burst out as a new woman?

Leysan:

It's just like dangling like sausage curtains, you know, like in the sixties, seventies, like going to clubs.

Ryan:

Can I go back to the seventies when there were sausage curtains? I'm a Vegan now, but good god, That sounds.

Leysan:

No no, I just meant like, I envisioned the sausage curtains to be like those curtains, you know, when they're separate strings and they're like wobble around like sausage or meatballs. Anyway. So

Ryan:

There like beans on string

Leysan:

So you think there should be like a balanced diet? sticks and carrots on them?

Ryan:

all that is... say goodbye.

Leysan:

No, this is great, I love it.

Ryan:

No!

Leysan:

Why? We should keep this stuff in.

Ryan:

Meat curtains? Meatballs? and beans. All right. All right.

Leysan:

I'm serious. I was on one. Listening is, here we go. We got new confidence going for going from broke to have to learn who we are. I'll come back. Comrades. I was talking about coming out of the closet and it's much harder. It was there were accepting more so than I expected, but they were also when you less about veganism and vegetarianism than anyone I've ever met, so I was constantly asked questions such as you don't eat meat that you eat chicken right or you don't eat meat, but you do eat lamb was a baby lamb, veal, lamb, lamb, oh or.

Speaker 1:

But you need horse. So in Tajikistan, people eat horse, so this is not a very uncommon meet, but at the same time when you ask, you can even lead horse is just strange. Just strange. And then it was frequently offered insights of Nmr as an alternative to meat. Somehow they think that like you were doing it because you thought it was wasteful and hurtful to the animal, so they thought like, oh well what if you eat meat that's like dead from natural causes or what have you made? That's way are they offering me ill cows? Horses. Horse meat is for. Well, I guess now it's an industry, isn't it? No, they don't collect course. The whole point of eating horse meat was the horse would eventually no longer be useful, so you would kill it. Sure, sure. But it's not the case. A War I hope, right. It was not enough horses. I don't know if all of the horses I've ever eaten in my life were like sick from natural conscience. Like this one had cancer and no poll before we were born, they had didn't have tractors. Everything was pulled by a horse. More horses. And so now, yeah, there's not too many horses who are down on their days. Most of them are living very happily with this one guy from depression, like a family who takes care of them in a stable. Is it, is it a thing if family in a stable and the horse sort of like falls over city killed? That's actually a good question. I think there's actually a, probably a really good market for the, uh, the glue if you will. So they probably just farm it out glue. He'll like, they make glue out of horse parts.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah. I think it's like horse hair and host

Speaker 1:

who's makes Gulu some glue. Obviously not like nontoxic glue, I don't think it's made from.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, parts. Okay.

Speaker 1:

They should make glue like in the shape of the bottle. Yes. All natural. What was say,

Speaker 2:

call it horse. Horse. Horse come up.

Speaker 1:

Totally. There's nothing like bonding about horses horse. Anyway, I'm definitely made me watch the ad. If, uh, I was just wondering on a house and all of a sudden a manic depressive laugh. That's what it sounds like. If you don't know, it's always, it just sounds like a psychotic person. Maybe that's why that horse was shot in mean into glue. This killed, killed my family. It's easy to Swampscott schoolers. Get up fucking fat. You only. I only eat meat from animals who have killed humans. Sharks and fit someone. That's fine. Of course, once you show your violence, I will unleash upon you all of humanity's fucking deserve it. He deserved chicken. Was stole my car. I would like to see horse meat from now on in all of the stores. The one that's in the can with the crime and the horse committed. Saw that striped crop. Well, no, this one's last. Someone's tires. This one. This was actually just an old retired police officer horse, but this is just once again and said that it was canned in 1998. It's still on the shelf because no one wants to buy it because it's just a picture with all of them. All the metals definitely it's been through Afghanistan and of course children. Okay. Anyway, so I was recording the offered inside the and most as an alternative to meat. I'm like, oh, you don't eat meat, but this is just a liver or like have a defense or. And I was offered this like you don't want to be wasteful here. We have these leftover parts, but I mean it's still meat taste like meat. My favorite was when I was in meat. Liver is through the Oregon to collects all of the bad shit in your body. And then it's like, you know, it gets toxic catcher. Uh, so what does argue for just that reason alone is the worst part of the body team. I don't really know the scale of terrible body parts to eat. Liver is going to be top five. And then I was offered beef tongue, like, oh, like so often in one night just kept like, it's just beef tongue, it's just beef on, just eat some beef tongue can. No, I'm afraid that they are really delicious things and they're like, oh, she just needed a little bit of convincing, will get it back on our site and then we can start talking about chicken wings and really lead a little bit the tongue, the tongue, the way show the way. And I was. I've been Vegan for about eight months, maybe nine months. So if anything is going to break my veganism, it's not going to be. It'll be fun. I'm just going to throw it out there. And it was controversial. Oh, the whole piece of the tiny, tiny. Most boards have tongs. I don't know much about burden anatomy, but I'm pretty sure they have tongues, but I've never seen. I haven't been offered at cit and time. I'm mostly only know about bird law, toe to toe with anyone on burned law, but Charlie county. So I was also offered things like, oh, you don't eat beef, but this isn't ground beef. It's still very much so everyone has like their own excuse for why someone doesn't eat meat and they just, they just projected onto everyone who doesn't eat meat. Like I guess they've met one person in their life who also doesn't eat meat and like, oh, that person is exclusive. Tanya. Oh, this person, they ground beef because they just didn't like the shape of beef. But if you cut it up and they're like, yeah, bring it on. I'll put it in a Burrito for me. I'm down. Maybe I want to be as far removed from knowing it's meat and then I'll eat it. Well, it's just perfect. It's like eating bread, meat bread through some horse schools in there might taste the glue form. Um, and then there was. Oh, you don't need to meet with you do chicken. Right? Or you don't eat chicken. Chicken looks bad. Was it cold for my father was chicken wings are really, really good. They, I almost broke down. Yeah. Those chicken legs or chicken wings are so, so good. Anyway, I didn't eat any meat. Uh, despite delicious suggestions of like beef tongue. I was offered a chicken stomachs, I'm not actually sure if I was a good Georgian dish and it has like stomach's heart and it was Kinda, it looked like it had some Jordan's spices and it had like a little bit of a broth, but it was literally all of the insides of an animal. And again, my aunt was like two, I think it was most of dumplings and noodles. No, no, no. Just just straight up meat. Bloody Oregon meat. Uh, it meant it wasn't bloody. Everything is coping. All of your blood that when you, when you end up cooking it, like it gets the dense. So I guess it's like almost gray, a dark brownish reddish color. So it's just liquid meet. Yeah. Took us two and I mean, I think it had some tomatoes on it and said, yeah. So you have that. How's that? I didn't have, but you know, the place where it was the opposite of everything meet was Russian hospitals. So I've been to a total of two, uh, for about six weeks, which was like a caretaker. So I didn't like sleeping in the hospital, but I spend most of my data and there, let me tell you, none of that. There's just continuing. If it did, he was teeny tiny pieces and most of the soups were, I mean I would say Vegan, not on purpose but because I think they're trying to save money or, and I mean it just helps me were to say if you have sick people and you're trying to cure them, uh, I think it is a healthier option than, you know, making very hard. He sleeps so most of theirs where they could pay ge or based most of their lunches, dinners for like grains and veggies. But of course to this day, I mean, nothing's changed in that part. You have to bring your own dishes onto the hospital. So playing cop and utensils. Yeah. Um, they come around when it's breakfast time, which is her time and the bang with a ladle on something metal and announced that they're, they're in jail. I mean I just want to make sure because you sent pictures and

Speaker 3:

pretty sure that was like prison. It was like, um, I mean it looked like prison. It was like Monte Cristo ask Dungeon type prison pictures. It was so scary. I don't even know. I would've known I would've never gotten back down that hallway if I would've seen that those stairs into the unknown crips never even just like, what if one day you're walking to your trip to some, the crips taker happened to be right at the top of the stairs. He pushed you down like, Nah,

Speaker 1:

find a new route to, to describe you in a rush on the hospital that I was in. Imagine an abandoned building from a set of a movie sought what Song Are we on? 14 or something, I don't even know anymore. Movie saw and he were like, fuck this building and then you find out that hospital. So that's the mindset when you walk in and so again, to the hospital and there's a giant wall, it looks like an ipad screen, and I was like, Oh, you should. This is the screen doesn't work. I have yet to see a screen and Russia works. They invest all of the money on just high technology, but seriously, like no one is in the building, any idea how to work in and so they break and they don't work. So it was the bread museum for computers set up for the bread museum in the middle of nowhere. Not One of them was even remotely on all of the screens and they were like high technology because they were screen, some of them were um, some of them are touchscreen and some of them are not. Some of them were like really big and supposed to be interactive, not alleged, worse, same. So apart from the hospital I had been seeing it of course, just outside of the hospital as well for, for example, in the metro they have like, Oh, you can just touch a couple of buttons and do this again. None of that works. They installed it and then the people who know how to work it left never came back because they didn't think through how this contract would work. I saw someone who was installing to college.

Speaker 3:

I saw an ad for some sort of product that they were in the Moscow, uh, tunnels, subway system and before you bought your ticket you could go to this little kiosk and you could do, I think it was like 15 or 30 squats and then when it would detect your emotion and it would give you a free ticket for the day. Now that you mentioned that, like that might be the riskiest thing to do. Like you're getting ready for work, you show up to the subway,

Speaker 1:

you do 30 squats and the system just like no Russians have figured out a way to get the tickets out of, about squatting. They just have a gift of them doing a squat and they put it up to the camera. And so anywhere you walk into the hospital, there's a giant ipad screen for a second. I get excited just to realize none of that works. So I tried. Did you actually push it or anything? It was just blackness. So I don't think I've ever been turned on already, but people don't really like this girl she's not from around here and was correct. And then it became even more apparent what I made like three more years steps and it was Russian Russian guard woman who is sitting in like a glass booth is screaming at me saying we're a fucking cool again. You're not in a prison, you're in a hospital. I just want you to again, just remember your surroundings. How many bars weren't there when there are a lot of jail cell bars. A lot of concrete. Well on the windows, yes. Horse Barlow and to keep people in or out. I'm going to continue with the script in the hospital and based on that, you will probably think that keep people in. So she's yelling at you in Russian with where the F are you going? Yeah. So I stopped and I say, Oh, I'm here to visit a patient. You should go, you should go to that window. So I turned around. There's a window or another woman sits and she has a stack of papers and she's like last name, my last name she looks through. She finds it as a piece of paper that says something 1993 and it's crossed over. And then it says the name of the hospital that's not that hospital, which is also crossed over and then assess named patient to see. She gives me this piece of paper, I take it and then I make two steps to give it to the other woman that sits opposite from the other woman and then she lets me go. So it's two ladies can see each other and I don't know, I think that reality is probably they unplugged that ipad screen that probably would let people register to come in, but then it will be eliminated two of their jobs. So anyway, I walk in, there is a rotating thing that she controls that can open up a close. Okay. Yeah. And then I need to go to the third floor. I pushed the elevator that. Who told you you were answering? Go. Oh, I knew where she was. And so I'll push the elevator. How'd you not known where she was? Do you think anyone that would have helped you? The piece of paper they gave you didn't have any information? Nope. It just said the name. So both those words which didn't correspond to where you are and then your your name or I'm sorry, your patient's name, the patient's name, and do you now have any part of this piece of paper on you anymore? No, I have given it to the woman and another one done. So how is this woman that you've given into going to know when you come back that that's your piece? I just say again, the last name, she gave me the piece of paper. I make two steps and give it to the woman. And another wonderful fuck is the point of the piece of paper. Certainly you should keep the paper on you. So if anyone stops you, they're like, where are we supposed to be with? And you're like, oh, I don't know. Like, well where's your paper? And your. Oh well the woman at the front has it then. Okay. So anyway, excuse me this, this process not make sense to you. So I go to the elevator, I pushed the button and I'm waiting. And she, this woman who has one piece of paper he yells at me, doesn't work with attitude that like, how dare you even think that. And I was like, you have really sick of people in this hospital. Elevator doesn't work. She said that if you need an elevator, because that's the conversation we had later on, if you really need an elevator, there's an elevator that's like blocked out as often doesn't work, but it does. And it's like, um, service elevators. Huge. So it can be arranged. I say, oh, okay, great. Of course it doesn't work. So I'd go to the third floor, I'm trying to find stairs. This is where this whole sauce, you know, he comes in because the corridors a dark, dark and there are stairs that lead into walls there. Stairs and corridors that lead into doors that have ginormous locks on them. They look like they hide some kind of like alien Ufos, secrets, those kinds of locks. And then on one of the railings there was a mattress that was bloodstained. Uh, so you go past that and we're also punch a loose needles but not like in one pile. They were just randomly scattered throughout as needles are, she feels no one uses 15 units at once. The most upsetting thing about loose needles Italia was that I was talking to a nurse who was um, in a hospital and she was sort of like the, that day's nurse is supposed to always be there just to monitor the situation. So she's sitting at her desk which is like an accordion ourselves talking to her and there was a loose needle like on her desk. Okay. You are a nurse or a medical professional. Why is, who's just random loose needle on your desk? It doesn't bother you. Hasn't been used? Well, yes, because it's not in the pocket anymore, right. They usually have those little pocket, like you can't use it anymore. There's a loose used to go. At any point someone could hook themselves with this needle, catch a disease. And so I finally make my way into the hospital and that week it was over 100 degrees and, and I'd say there's not even a nod to air conditioning. There's no such thing. There's no fans. The only thing you can do to make it cool somehow is to close your curtains. So that is literally the only like the curtain. So the sun is not actively shining on your bed. And

Speaker 3:

figured out why the mean age of death in Russia

Speaker 1:

it was like 62 guys have heat stroke and the fucking hospital, it was very, very hot. But then when I tried to open the window and the door, so there is some kind of like avenues like fresh air coming in. And there was a complaint that they got herpes from wind herpes from when she had an ias wind, like the name of her pimp. What was a woman who claimed by the, um, by the wall right next to the window and the window. She was like, oh no, no, no, no. This is blowing on me. And I'm already.

Speaker 3:

I probably shouldn't use the IPAD downstairs. No, no, no, no, no. Let me tell you one thing about the hospital here. See Herpes, the spendable by wind needles are actually healthy for you when you randomly bump into them.

Speaker 1:

Shot.

Speaker 3:

No. It boost your immune system to have other people's insights hoped into you. Yeah, but when you've got to be careful, windows is. It carries a lot of things. Being on the outside. You went inside and outside in. You have the whole thing that they're going,

Speaker 1:

come on now, so I couldn't really respond to that. So she said already got herpes from wind, so I don't want to get secret from.

Speaker 3:

I would have said one day I was out in a windstorm and I caught aids day. It was a bad day. It was a bad day. Can you imagine what it's like in the windy city of Chicago?

Speaker 1:

Herpes must just be rampant. Not just people will live. There are people who, oh my God, it's called Chicago, isn't medical.

Speaker 3:

I have A. I have statistical evidence that in Texas, one of the windiest cities has a large percentage of herpes. Lubbock, Texas. It's the windiest city

Speaker 1:

in Texas. It's very often the windiest city in Texas, but it's mostly srps because it has a college. They're going to be the one to check lubbock and Chicago for both wind speed. Arby's correlation. I took a stats class, cross reference this with how many people sleep with windows open versus closed with the woman was adamant about it, so I couldn't really open the window either is she was also the woman who said that living with someone without being married his horn, but yet she's fucking win. And so apart from it being super hot, I go into the bathroom and there is a bucket of loose needles obviously. And then a bucket of like disposed food. Um, there's one sink which is, which also serves as a shower, also serves as our kitchen sink, sink and the bathroom sink. And then there's a toilet toilet sometimes. So probably. So there's the toilet and the toilet seat is not on a toilet, is detached and is on the floor. I. So you can sit down. There was also no toilet paper. So if he came to the hospital out of toilet paper, you don't have to pay for it unless you bore with from your neighbor who hopefully has to paper. There's no board from the woman with herpes because my hair actually gone a really good spread by anyone's extra toilet paper, whether you've used it or not, whether you know just being in your house, in your possession and then rubbing it on yourself because you've gone through a lot of great medical facts from Russia, from Russia, really on the forefront of medicine of modern medicine. No, it's not actually. It's almost like holistic medicine, but it's called sarcastic medicine. They just straight up lie to you and make up facts. There's no toilet seat. There's no toilet paper on the floor. You can use it if you wanted to see the cowboys that are vip, have to clean it and then it's the same thing. You wake up the toilet seat, pick up the toys that you go watch it in the singing of course, and then you go sit down and go clean seat. Every time. A is brilliant. That's very parole environment because it's not using butcher paper, it's reusable and who doesn't like fecal matter in the same thing with the Washington bullets loves it. And so this totally lead was in a room with a window of course. Why wouldn't it be? And so the window went right out on the street. And so if you are dating shit or you can just wave. I mean you people see you on the second floor. So on the third floor. I'm sorry. So

Speaker 3:

can you describe the window like wasn't behind you? Was it to your side? Okay. Stu side. So you had one wall to your side and one window to car and in front of you? No door? No. And then the window was half

Speaker 1:

wall. Whole wall, half wall. So when you sat down, people can see like your head and shoulders, correct? Yeah, my torso. Okay. So you could just be there, you know, working, working at your desk. Yeah. And you were working in your office in the smallest possible from tiles and you know, going back to the Moscow squat challenge or whatever it was called, the, the slab squat. The continuum, if you ever were in Russian hospitals or any Russian tour, I was at a public school with Yap squat, Russians, a gray squatters. I'm just gonna. Throw it out there called the slap squat for a reason.

Speaker 3:

I think I showed you. I showed you that image one day of a person wearing adidas shoes and adidas pants and if you haven't noticed and the pants go straight down, but the shoes go sideways. Yeah, but if you do the lab squat or both at the same angle.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

I'm trying really hard to imagine the slap squad for anyone who's uninitiated is when you go from a standing position to a seated position while still standing on your feet. So you're basically, you sit your butt on your heels or your Achilles' heels, Achilles tendons, and uh, your knees will naturally usually go forward, which if you had straight lines on your legs, now they're at like almost a 45 degree angle which would match the Adidas Stripe.

Speaker 1:

Hmm. I feel like there's a conspiracy theory there. I guess there's always a conspiracy theory anywhere. You just have to look hard enough. I'm sure Alex Jones Russian channel has a conspiracy theory on it, certainly got plenty of

Speaker 3:

Russian topics to talk about on the forums there. Just now had a five second idea of what an Alex Jones form will look like in it. It's disgusting. So

Speaker 1:

another feature of Russia and hospitals were holes in walls. They've recovered by paper. I think I've sent you that. The holes go. Anyway, I didn't risk to open any of those calls. What's your paper? You don't know what's behind that? Described the paper. Is it like butchers, paper, printer, printed, printed paper? What kind of tape did they use? Horse Glue or just a what looked like just the not clear. Just clears any repair can be done with three m tape and a piece of paper. Yeah, absolutely. And so my um, um, my hospital experience also included interaction with staff and I asked my, uh, one of the nurses above the blood pressure, the blood pressure was very low and I said like, we need to maybe adjust the medication. Um, you know, the blood pressure shouldn't be the tall and she said, and I quote, it's probably from the heat in the hospital you can fix or try to elevate this problem that your patients are struggling rude, recovering because too hot.

Speaker 3:

I like that even like the nurse has the knowledge to put two and two together, like run a hospital and we should be offering basic services which include air conditioning. But yet there's nothing I can do to help you other than telling you to let you know that the government has failed us. We don't have air conditioning, therefore I cannot change her blood pressure. Yeah. No other medical revolutions have come out.

Speaker 1:

So one of the good things of course about Russian healthcare is that it's free and you can be, you can have surgery. You stayed in hospital and then even be sent to a Rehab Center. All of that is free, but it also means that a lot of the services and a lot of the amenities are very outdated. I get that, but it seems that if he. This is like a known thing to you and everyone that he makes people feel worse and that your blood pressure can fall. Maybe there's a way that you can try to fix it. Yeah, bring a fan or no, or it login like in old days. Just the job.

Speaker 3:

I mean we should also point out the fact that this is not all countries that have this problem. Russia is vast. It's a large Indian America less populated than America has less GDP than America. Yeah. Has these hotspots of people, huge cities and places and you're offering basic services of. I mean, I don't want to call it basic if you, if you're offering birth and sort of death care, like that's a lot of work to a lot of nurses, a lot of payments, so it's tough to do. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. And nurses don't really get paid a whole lot and because of that they tend to be. Not all of them are very friendly.

Speaker 3:

While you were there, you described it like they were being paid sort of the same as a public teacher in America.

Speaker 1:

Yes. I would put a equivalent to, on very underpaid surveys of teachers in America, so they're doing a very hard job which is dealing with sick people, dying people, and to be paid so little for that very difficult work. I, in my mind is equivalent to being entrepreneurs for teaching the next generation. Um, and teachers are very underpaid in Russia and so are doctors. So they're, you know, in my mind, it's kind of like a similar problem. We're here. Of course doctors and nurses are paid fairly well. Um, there, there is a sense of if I don't receive any kind of extra payment, uh, tips, I will, you know, maybe not pay a lot of attention to a patient because I have a lot more and they are overworked and they're understaffed. So I get all that. At the same time, you know, a lot of the equipment, international hospitals, I've sent you pictures of some of the beds they look like they're from the World War One. So this is what they look like. And then the beds in rooms, um, some of the legs are broken so they're just wooden chairs, like hold up one side of the bed.

Speaker 3:

I'll never forget that day we passed a firetruck in Russia and I was like, wow, how rare is that that we passed a 19 fifties heart chart and you translated that from your dad. And his reply is, no, that's like five years old.

Speaker 1:

No response. So you never know. Even though this product is 19 forties, new model, who that just never been approached. Brian is like being amazed by all of this vintage showing the style. Jay, this is just. Nope, this is the new design. And then another thing that really surprised me, we were in our rehabilitation center that was right next to a river and one of the main points for the rehabilitation center to being next to the river is of course fresh air. But yet a lot of the nurses and doctors were just chain smoke outside and not even a couple steps away from the hospital. No, they were right next to the entrance and they would just sit there all day and smoke. And smoke and smoke and one of the doctors, I came up to him multiple times and I said, can we do this or can we add this? He said, can you come back tomorrow? And that was every day and tomorrow never came until a new doctor came in and she. But we have to take both of them. Quote unquote tip. Yeah. Is it tipping if you're forced? Yes. I suppose tipping. If you don't pay anything you saying like 100 percent of zero is your. I guess you have to assume you're not like you could get the meal for free. You have to assume like, oh, okay, what would it have costed me if I paid for the meal? And then you tip on that amount. You know what I'm talking about? Like ever.

Speaker 3:

That would also require that everyone who ever went into the restaurant would get the meal for free every time.

Speaker 1:

I see what you're saying. So now

Speaker 3:

I'm not paying for the meal. I'm paying for you to spend more time on my meal than some other Joe Schmoe who comes in here and going to get what would've been the same meal, but you're going to make sure mine's warmed up perfectly. The best parts of it, best parts of you're like, you know, like you're going to grab the best parts of the chicken, not going to grab the best parts of the bread or you're not going to give me the part that you just cut away from a bit of mold.

Speaker 1:

So one of the things in the hospitals that if you can walk and then they don't bring the food to you. And when I say to you it just means to your room and then you have to get up and get. But if you can walk, you have to go to the kitchen and that kitchen, you stand in line, right to get your standing there with your plate. You're a cop and your spoon and you wait in line. You get where you want, not what you want. Sorry. You kept whatever they give you and then you carry it to the table. The thing is a lot of people in the hospital can really walk very well or don't have the use of their hand and so he just have a bunch of there hundreds of people in this hospital or like wobbling their way to their table was hot soup in their hands and people who cannot walk. Then someone brings it to them, like one of their friends and not, not a staff member. The only time that I saw a staff member hassle and actually do something was when there was an inspection because I'm looking at everyone is smiling, which is not a thing in Russia. And bringing a soup and even being like how is everything? And I was like, what the fuck is happening? I was like, I'm either asleep or somehow has been to like a parallel reality. Everyone paid tips today and then I saw, oh, inspection is in south. So they doing things that like they have never done before. So that's the only time that I've seen staff of the kitchen actually do any kind of help. Uh, they were walking around, they were smiling. Just

Speaker 3:

make it easier if like they had one person, like they have two people to check the name at the front door, they can't hire another person who just sits there at end of the aisle where you get your food at the buffet line and just says, oh, where do you want to sit? And they pick up your train and walk with you.

Speaker 1:

Sure. But sitting in the window is much easier. They're definitely, there were four people working then it will be even easier having an Ipod, ipad work there and then they wouldn't be paid their salaries.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I guess it's better to yelp where the fuck you going at people then be helpful and pick up an old person's food and take it to a table.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. Stuff painting better power trip for sure.

Speaker 3:

And you don't have to realize that people die and you know, we all can hold. So instead of you just get the yellow grieving families.

Speaker 1:

No. Anyway. And once um, once he eat you take the food back into like dish washing area. And the one time we were standing in line to get food and I was talking to the kitchen personnel and so I stopped there for more than the allocated one second or whatever. And the old man came up to me and said I need my jumps and then I'll look at him because I didn't understand what he said at first. And he pushed me out of the leg to grab a glass of juice. So I almost got into an altercation with an old sick man in Russia. Russian hospital. You're like, you didn't have any needles on him,

Speaker 3:

that's all I. no telling how many needles are just stuffed into patients' pockets that this house just walking around and waiting.

Speaker 1:

Well actually, so we had to do insulin shots to. To do that we have to actually bring out needles and our own insulin to the hospital.

Speaker 3:

Why not just wash the ones you've had?

Speaker 1:

Oh, tell him be cost effective. And also be considered recycling. Right. Okay. But you're Vegan. What happened? Vegans? Recycling needles. Right.

Speaker 3:

It isn't only more thoughtful about environment. Yeah, there's a reason they're doing it. Yeah. Okay. Okay. Let me just use a lighter in the needle tip runs himself through it. You'll be fine. Oh, on this idea of why my family save tons of money. I'm fine. You can deal with sort of like a rescued golf ball operation. You know, people go around to golf courses around the city and they'll find golf balls in the off hours, but we can do is we can start a company and just go to all the hospitals round up all the needle. They're just lying around, you know, gorilla style and I'm paying the hospital for any of the needles.

Speaker 1:

Take them home. You're going to get through the team garden ladies then sit in each chapter.

Speaker 3:

Oh, easy. You just walk in and you say the most common Russian name you could possibly say, and they say, Oh yeah, you go, is the name badge? Thank you very much.

Speaker 1:

Then you go into the rest of your life. You're going to take a dump and you just throw it out the window. Bada Bing, Bada boom. You've got yourself a needle business. They don't even ask for it and asking you for any kind of Id to like, of course they're not taking the paper and you're giving the paper to one person and there's no point of it. You're in America. You need an ID even to go to the grocery store. You can just walk into any hospital scholar identity, go right past two guards. Never think to grads is more secure than one Walmart greeter, but apparently walmart is the more secure. One thing. I'm going to check your id on you by breath. Pressure. I'm confused. Was it was the argument there that they don't want illegal people being able to buy groceries anymore? I was talking about Donald Trump saying we need an ID to buy groceries, therefore illegals aren't buying groceries. I think he just doesn't know how it works. It just doesn't make it like that. There's no way that he thinks there's no way. This has to be a reason. He said this. Getting ready to introduce legislation that would require you to show your id even during grocery, bringing a birth certificate and get 30 percent off on bananas. What about old people who don't drive anymore? What about kids between the age of 12 and 16? Dr. What about people who live in New York at our own cars? Okay. God, let's not go with that idea and you convinced the audacity of people will think that endpoint has an id, a picture id. The only picture id I own is my passport and my driver license and both of those costs me money. Yes, and both of them you acquired because you were going out of a country or you had a car. So I got to new idea. You figure out how to make yourself look like an inspection person. This is what I did in sessions with care professionals such as like massage session, speech therapists. I obviously interact with a lot of staff members that were doing speech therapy and gymnastic, stuff like that and I noticed that a lot of them didn't necessarily take us seriously and they would say, oh, it's fine. She didn't have to do it or yeah, we're supposed to have an hour gymnastic session, but it's okay. You don't have to. Stuff like that. Which is upsetting because who were there for a reason and would like to see some progress. And so what I, what I started doing is that I will try, I'll bring a notebook and would take out a pen and a very beginning of the session, had anything that would be saying I would say and would write it down while looking at them. And then they started to be concerned about disease. I was writing things down and they would be more receptive to continuing the session that they're supposed to do. And then I would sit on the bench and will be like, I'll just sit right here, you know, don't pay attention to me. And the entire time I'll be scribbling something not at all related to what's going on in the room, but I'll be like nodding my head and looking at them thoughtfully from time to time. And I found that very useful. And that way I didn't have to be confrontational. I didn't have to yell at them and you know, prove any kind of rights I have or you know, do any of it. So that worked. Wonders, wonders. And one of them, he was supposed to do special gymnastic and he was, it was impossible to find him is always late. He didn't want to do anything and he would hide in the bathroom where he smoked. I'm pretty sure because every time I walk outside and look into the windows to find them. Well, um, another instructor when I was looking for our instructor was like, check two doors down, so I go two doors down and he yells at me for somebody who's like, can you not count? And I was like, well, so just spoken to this way, so I'm a healthy person. If you talk this way to a person who is sick, especially if it has anything to do with their brain, wouldn't it be so upsetting and you know, on top of heat and then people will speak to you. So disrespectfully I was just taking the back. But anyway, so I go into this room to try to find this instructor, which was three doors down, which was, he was actually in the bathroom. He came out and there was a strong stench of smoke. So he completely smoke there. And at first I was like, really? Dude. Then I was like, it usually smells so bad at p in this bathroom that him smoking is probably the closest this hospital will come through. Fabrice, sort of like I'm cheap. And since. Yes. So in the world where you have to choose between the smell of me or the smell smoke for any execs working at Marlborough who listened to our podcast. Quick idea for you instead of just like the 100 version of cigarettes. You have a instance Virgin Barbara where you just, you have. It's like a foot long. You light it, you don't actually smoke it and you just let the tobacco and you'll take it further. I'm going to say full breathes in Marlborough Air fresheners. Nicotine. Nicotine is three. And the containers of Austin. I don't know the details, but I think there's something to the point of buying it. Again, just the smell obvious. Anyway, coming to a Russian hospital near you. Who in Melbourne? Smell. I love when my house smells like an old billiards hall. His grandpa here bring the memory to be child. This one smells like mom. Never rolled down the windows in the car, bring back. So anyway, this gymnast, he's like in a structure, especially structure. This is the approach I job with him trying things in a notebook and then really worked even with him and he was dead set on not doing anything at all.

Speaker 3:

This was the guy who told me it was like, she probably needs 15 minutes less training and you're like, no, I think she needs all of it. And he was like, okay, and the next three times he showed up. He was just 15 minutes late.

Speaker 1:

Yes, he was late. And then on day four and that particular hospital he says, Oh, well you don't need to come, uh, only five days. And I was like, well, has it been for, got one more day? And I was like, and I'm going to check and see if that's actually the case.

Speaker 3:

Alright, I'm going to throw up my conspiracy theory because why not start it on podcast conspiracy theorist channel. He took a dump at the same time every day and that correlated with your mom's our. And he needed that 15 minute block. That was the only 15 minute block he had to get his dues out.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say, based on what I've seen people eat, there's no way any of them have healthy stools that require 15 minutes in the bathroom. They slept what they drink. I don't even know how anything comes out of them. I was told by multiple people that I shouldn't be drinking so much water. It's impossible to find a water fountain there. I don't know how they even saw your drinking water. My own bottles. The entire hospital. It doesn't have a single location where you can fill up your glass and drink water

Speaker 3:

within a five foot vicinity of this magical water fountain. You want to be in this hospital. How many needles do you think would be there?

Speaker 1:

It wouldn't look like an art installation in the Horse Barn. Huge Museum. Did you still want to use that water fountain to fill up your little plastic ball? No. Okay, so you had to buy bottles every day? Yeah, so before I would go to the hospital I would buy a bottle of water and we would bring a same like bottles to my mum's a hospital to her room as well because he can drink water from the top and there is no water funds, so the only liquid you get is in the kitchen whenever they feed you, but it's most of the time it's either tea or juice. Apparently really good juice. He's fucking choose math because also have a good time around and he's a, what are you staring at and push up up the boy. I was like, did you take your juice? You should have your first words out of your mouth. She has been in juice. Just whatever his question was, juice. I haven't been in that situation so frequently when I was speechless and this is exactly what's happening to me and part of it was that I don't speak Russian all that often, so maybe there was like a natural. I knew what I wanted to say, but I couldn't say it in Russian or I was just so shocked when situation of doctors and nurses giving me shit about everything. Secure being culture shocked by our original culture. Correct. That's exactly. Oh, and. But this time there were no cats inside the hospital that were right outside the hospital. So people were sitting on all of the benches. There was family, which I fed them. Okay, well they're there, you know, but it's kind of an improvement. They no longer live inside the hospital, but rather at least this particular hospital data of outset starting to think they were like, it's really hot in here. You guys can open the windows. We're going to be outside. I have never sweat so much in my life and consider how hot it was inside the hospital and outside the hospital. You know, the fact that I was drinking water shouldn't be so shocking, but people were concerned about my health. I'm not sweating in your bed. You do. I know what they also take your medical insurance card that is issued to you by the Ministry of Health in Russia. Like it's not easy to just call it replace it and that gets really hard to get the take that card away from you in exchange for bedsheets. When you admitted to the hospital that way you returned to batch. You have to return the bedsheets. Otherwise you don't get your medical card back. Option thousand account. Yeah. You Bet. Yeah. We need something for those two. Golden flakes. Mcqueen is the official decide, but she's in Russia. In the hospitals. I'd like to think actually what it is is they somewhere in a warehouse, they have one pair of bedsheets for every one person in the country and when you give them your card, they go find your box snatch bedsheets, bring them to you. She goes to a different hospital. It's the same as sheets. Bedsheets. Yeah, it's an another. Going back to the warehouse on the sheets. I'm just like, I feel like they're spending more money keeping track of cards and bed sheets. Then they would be just buying new bedsheets every time. I don't know how many people at home have a hospital bed, a bed that even is the same size as a hospital bed. They're pretty odd shapes. Like they're not quite a full bed. Usually they're wider. That's true. It just seems like the narrow man really so narrow because this one I'm all for it to like take a nap together. And I was like, where you think usually they're wide so they can like almost like enroll your. Well in America they don't think you can roll you over and administer. Oh yeah. Right. And also a lot of uh, like pregnancies and stuff they can't read. They shouldn't be laying on the back. They should be on their sides and sort of have more room for that. Yeah. Some of the beds were in such bad shape. The people with actual spine problems were laying on beds that were not straight and they had like a little hole in the middle just because the bed was so old. That was kind of falling through. So people who were in like kind of like a v position, not like extremely. But just to give you an idea where the bed started to Cuba, it's cheap enough right next to the hospital, there was an abandoned building that said danger, radiation don't come in. Never found out what it was. But right next to that building was in ovenden playground for children, you know, they look like post apocalyptic or their one on one of the playground was abandoned and then there was kind of looked like a pagoda, not very big and there were stairs going into it. And then there was a tunnel that let into the river I think. But it was all blocked off and looked again, like straight out of some kind of movie. Like saw. I did not risk it going into it all. I was curious and in, in my mom's from, because they wanted to open the window at least like in the evening when the sun went down, they didn't have a net. So you can't really open the window without an class would come in. So someone put a cheesecloth and on the window. But it was put. There are a while ago. It smelled so bad. She smelled so bad, it'll have a closed my nose when I pass through and so it was stopping all the herpes. So this was the second hospital, right? And in that second hospital, the toilets, it wasn't a toilet. However, it was very wobbly. So they had an inspection coming around and I was like, Oh, this is my opportunity to tell them what's going on here. So say, oh, excuse me that you know, the toilet seat on the toilet. It's like way off. It's broken, it broke. And they were like, oh no, sound broken. And I was like, what is his fucking mind? Tricks is definitely broken. And she goes, no, it just never fit to begin with. And I was like, oh, okay. So there isn't a problem to fix in your mind. Then you sort of brushed it off by saying it never worked to begin with. And then I asked her about the cheese cloth, right. I was like, this cheesecloth is gross and disgusting. Can we hang something else? She was like, well, we didn't put that. She's called on so you just have to figure it out yourself. And I was like, well the other window there is a net that her seat and she said don't even breathe on it because it's pretty much put together and go to the window. But bookers or supporters are just normal people. Christian people don't even touch it. Don't touch it. Don't even touch it. It's going to break. It's held together by borders. So her. Cool.

Speaker 3:

Why don't you just say, all right, that's fine. I don't want to touch it. Can you also ask them to put the same construction in my window and I will not touch that I do to me. And I'm out of boogers worker men can't do it right now. You go into one window per month.

Speaker 1:

Wait til winter month. And everyone is sick supply.

Speaker 3:

Actually I was, I forgot to ask. Uh, did this place look it was wide for any sort of heating in the winter. What do you guys. Okay, so there is people are getting frostbite window. If the window accidentally cracks open,

Speaker 1:

I don't know. I mean when I was in the Russian hospital, that was a while ago and it was winter. They did put me in a room that was not heated, so I had to sleep in my coat and under a lot of blankets, but overall I think it's usually pretty warm. I also got to do some fun stuff. My friend invited me to go to a lake and I envisioned it as a normal lake side, relaxing time, but what actually happened, we came to a lake and there is a doc from which people were jumping into ice cold water, so it's called Blue Lake and the temperature there is always the same, which is very much like temperature under ice. Yeah. You were saying it was like basically 30, 40 degrees Fahrenheit. Exactly. So the weekend entertainment portion people wants to go to those legs then in line and jump into this ice cold water and children as young as four years old and we're doing that and some men would try to prove themselves I guess, and with not only jump in it, it would also like try to swim and come back and their skin. It was just purple. Meanwhile, being completely destroyed by mosquitoes because Russian mosquitoes I am just convinced are genetically engineered by kgb or something because it is the most painful bite who would ever experienced. And it will each four days. Well, if you're, if you're comfortable with needles being scattered around you, you're probably also fine with mosquitoes. I'm going to make another allegory here. Um, so when gives you herpes but freezing cold water gives you health. Correct. People were doing it for health reasons. Um, I can see being counterintuitive that when does a lot more damage then jumping into ice cold water. I dip my leg into it and I could not feel my life probably like a minute to the point where I was like, am I okay? Oh God, do I have to go to our Russian hospital? When I was there, actually my life swallow a little bit. I've had this happen to me for a while now and a lot of my friends and family who were complaining about the amount of water I drink would pose that maybe your leg is also on how much water you drink. Just one, like maybe one leg was higher than the other muscle and that was where the water accumulated. The lower one was getting water. Very strange. Do Sleep on one side maybe. And the, and you know, honestly I drink less, have been a drink here because of course it's not as easily available. You can just go and sit and drink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you got to. And I would bring her mom jugs and jugs of water and she would just not drink them thirsty. But also, you know, their toilets are so terrible. None of the toilet seats arc, you know, on top of the tourists or if it is it's broken and maybe it is a good idea not to drink any water because that would reduce the number of times you go to the toilet, have to squat for 45 seconds, eight times a day versus 30 seconds. I mean, yeah, no, I get over them one minute squat, trying to get all that water out. No one the day before. Correct. No one who's an answer. So everyone there is just dehydrated. I think they're all chronically dehydrated. I absolutely believe that. I think that's all we have for today and we would like to thank our listeners for listening and also leaving reviews like to thank cat trees, 20 rains, ms dot matters for leaving a review last month. Thank you everyone for tuning in and we'll be back again soon.